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the_one10100 -

Hello everyone,

I say "nice to meet you" to all since this is my first post here.

The reason I come here hoping I'll find the answer is that I'm looking for the chinese sign(s) for
"existence" or "I am" or something close-related to these terms. If you could give me the answer
and the way to spell it I'll be very grateful.

Thank you in advance and have a nice day!



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nipponman -



Quote:

The reason I come here hoping I'll find the answer is that I'm looking for the chinese sign(s) for
"existence" or "I am" or something close-related to these terms. If you could give me the answer
and the way to spell it I'll be very grateful.

Firstly, they're not signs. They're characters. Secondly, there are different characters for
different situations. The most basiccharacter of existence would be you3 有.










Pravit -

It'd be pretty funny to see "有" used as a tattoo or the logo for some organization, though, if
that's what you're getting at, the_one.










skylee -

You could consider 存在. But if it is for a tattoo, I consider it a bad choice. Why? Take a look
at this post.










amandagmu -

Am I reading into this too much or would you like to know the definition of "I am"/"existence" in
the Descartes or Sartre sense of the word(s)? If so, then it might be helpful to ask someone
proficient in intellectual Chinese terms. I do know that there is no precise definition of
"privacy" in Chinese and that questions of self and individual might be harder to define in
Chinese than in English... they definitely hold more weight in English. Anyways, maybe you should
clarify what kind of definition you're looking for first.
~Amanda










skylee -



Quote:


Originally Posted by amandagmu

I do know that there is no precise definition of "privacy" in Chinese


I am not sure if there is really no precise definition of "privacy" in Chinese. In Hong Kong, a
Chinese territory, there is a Privacy Commissioner's Office to look after the relevant laws. I
would think that if there are laws, the term privacy should be pretty well defined. The Chinese
name of the office is 個人資料私隱專員公署. And 私隱 is a common translation for
"privacy". Here you can find some dicitionary entries for the chinese terms for "privacy".

This however probably is not related to the OP's original questions.










djwebb2004 -

I saw a copy of Heidegger's Being and Time - a work abstruse in any language - translated as :

是于时










djwebb2004 -

是与时










amandagmu -

Well, I was referring to it more in the conceptual sense of the meaning behind the word "privacy"
in English, which usually refers to someone saying they need "privacy" when they want to be alone.
That is, people tend to treasure "privacy" and therefore give it more weight. It's just a simple
difference in terms of meaning. It's like trying to tell people in English what guanxi means in
Chinese. It's not just "relations" or "connections" right?

Anyways, what I think the OP is trying to do is somethin similiar--translate something into
Chinese that has a lot of weight in English but not in Chinese (or which might use a different
word in Chinese to give the same connotation that "I am" or "existence" does in English).










skylee -

Oh then maybe I misunderstood you. I thought you were teasing us for not understanding the concept
of privacy, thus the non-existance of the a definition for the term "privacy" in our language. My
apologies if that was not what you meant.












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